{"id":948,"date":"2010-02-28T10:37:00","date_gmt":"2010-02-28T08:37:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.void.gr\/kargig\/blog\/?p=948"},"modified":"2010-02-28T10:37:00","modified_gmt":"2010-02-28T08:37:00","slug":"searching-for-a-new-house","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.void.gr\/kargig\/blog\/2010\/02\/28\/searching-for-a-new-house\/","title":{"rendered":"Searching for a new house"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve recently moved from Thessaloniki to Athens, Greece and of course the very first thing I had to do was to find a new house. To make my life easier (?) I tried to go a bit techie on that. Using tools\/sites on the web and my Android. And here&#8217;s what I did and what I used for anyone who might be interested.<\/p>\n<p>First of all I found some sites with real estate listings. The ones I found\/used\/tried to use were: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.xe.gr\">\u03a7\u03c1\u03c5\u03c3\u03ae \u0395\u03c5\u03ba\u03b1\u03b9\u03c1\u03af\u03b1<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rento.gr\">Rento<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.spitogatos.gr\">Spitogatos<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aggeliestanea.gr\">aggelies ta nea<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Each one though has it own benefits and problems, apart from some who only have problems.<br \/>\n<strong><em>Aggelies Ta Nea<\/em><\/strong>:<br \/>\n<em>pros<\/em><br \/>\nNone. I can&#8217;t find anything innovative about this site.<br \/>\n<em>Cons<br \/>\n<\/em>i) It has very few listings of places to rent in the areas I liked (downtown Athens).<br \/>\nii) It is full of listings by real estates agents who ask you as payment one full rent if they manage to find you a house.<br \/>\niii) There&#8217;s no map showing where each house is.<br \/>\niv) There are pics of very very few houses in the listings.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Spitogatos<\/em><\/strong>:<br \/>\n<em>Pros<\/em>:<br \/>\nThis site has a really neat feature, price per square meter. It&#8217;s quite nice to have the site calculate it for you.<br \/>\n<em>Cons<\/em>:<br \/>\ni) It has very few listings of places to rent in the areas I liked (downtown Athens).<br \/>\nii) It&#8217;s default drop down price filtering boxes are a bit weird. It goes from 150->200->300->500->750>1000 Euros. So if I choose a price range of 300-500 euros I get a url like this:<br \/>\nhttp:\/\/www.spitogatos.gr\/gr\/search\/results\/residential\/rent\/r100\/m2011m\/nd\/all\/300\/500\/nd\/85\/nd\/nd\/nd\/nd\/nd\/nd\/nd\/nd\/all\/rankingScore_desc<br \/>\nIf I change it to:<br \/>\nhttp:\/\/www.spitogatos.gr\/gr\/search\/results\/residential\/rent\/r100\/m2011m\/nd\/all\/<strong>350\/450<\/strong>\/nd\/85\/nd\/nd\/nd\/nd\/nd\/nd\/nd\/nd\/all\/rankingScore_desc<br \/>\nI get exactly what I wanted.<br \/>\nHaving drop down boxes might be fine for some people, but they don&#8217;t let me be as specific as I would like. A form to fill the price range by hand would be a lot more useful for me.<br \/>\niii) There&#8217;s no map showing where each house is.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Rento<\/em><\/strong>:<br \/>\nPros:<br \/>\ni) Rento is the most innovative site I found. Every house listing is on google maps and you can access its details by just clicking on a house.<br \/>\nii) It also features a VERY innovative search bar. You actually type a sentence about the house you would like and it searches for it.<br \/>\niii) Each listing has pictures<br \/>\niv) You can contact the owner by email<br \/>\nv) There&#8217;s an option to note each listing you like so you get something like &#8220;bookmarks&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Cons:<br \/>\ni) It has very few listings of places to rent in the areas I liked (downtown Athens).<br \/>\nii) The search bar did not have a negation clause. You can&#8217;t search for &#8220;not something&#8221;. So since I didn&#8217;t want a ground flour house, I couldn&#8217;t filter them out.<br \/>\niii) The search bar would sometimes filter more than you asked for. If I searched for a price range of 350-450 and got some houses, then if I search for a 40-60 sq. meters I got some others. If I searched for both the price range and the sq. meters I got very very few results.<br \/>\niv) Many of the listings were quite outdated. Places had been rent weeks ago and the listings were still on the site. (I guess that&#8217;s a problem with real estate sites&#8230;owners don&#8217;t tell the sites whether the house has been sold\/rented when that happends).<br \/>\nv) There&#8217;s no way to see the most recently placed listings.<\/p>\n<p>The awkward thing about Rento was that I met the people who manage it in a <a href=\"http:\/\/rubyst.es\/\">Ruby meeting<\/a> in Athens one week after I got the house. They were aware of these problems and they said that they have already corrected them and will push their changes to the site very soon. I sure hope so because the site is definitely worth it.<\/p>\n<p>One suggestion for rento would be to have an option to export as kml the &#8220;bookmarked&#8221; houses.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>\u03a7\u03c1\u03c5\u03c3\u03ae \u0395\u03c5\u03ba\u03b1\u03b9\u03c1\u03af\u03b1<\/em><\/strong>:<br \/>\n<em>Pros<\/em>:<br \/>\ni) Many many houses listed.<br \/>\nii) The filtering for the search works very well.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cons<\/em>:<br \/>\ni) Very few pics of the houses (if any)<br \/>\nii) Not every house is listed on a map<br \/>\niii) In order to get the owner&#8217;s telephone you have to send an sms, or call a number and pay some amount of money.<br \/>\niv) Not every house has an address listed.<\/p>\n<p>I ended up using \u03a7\u03c1\u03c5\u03c3\u03ae \u0395\u03c5\u03ba\u03b1\u03b9\u03c1\u03af\u03b1 due to it&#8217;s massive database with listed houses. I tried to use rento and spitogatos but I just couldn&#8217;t find what I wanted. (Maybe I&#8217;ll get luckier when I&#8217;ll try to move to a new house.)<\/p>\n<p>I then created an unlisted google map called &#8220;new houses&#8221; and started placing marks on the houses from \u03a7\u03c1\u03c5\u03c3\u03ae \u0395\u03c5\u03ba\u03b1\u03b9\u03c1\u03af\u03b1 that I liked, sorted by date of last update, and were placed on a map in the site. Then I started calling the owners of the rest to find out where they were. If they were in a place that I liked I made an appointment to go and check the house.<br \/>\nI placed all the appointments at the &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/teodorfilimon.com\/android\/Tag-ToDo-List\/basic.html\">TagToDo List<\/a>&#8221; application for my android.<br \/>\nUnfortunately I couldn&#8217;t use the &#8220;My maps Editor&#8221; by Google on my android due to some bug it stopped connecting to google maps. It would be really useful to have this app because I could have all the places I placed on &#8220;new houses&#8221; and have them with me. 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